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Old MacBook Pro's Airport didn't want to turn on...
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Ant
2013-07-26 05:11:42 UTC
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Hello.

Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.

Thank you in advance. :)
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Jolly Roger
2013-07-26 13:22:16 UTC
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Post by Ant
Hello.
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
Thank you in advance. :)
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
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Ant
2013-07-26 20:04:34 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
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Jim Gibson
2013-07-27 00:21:05 UTC
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Post by Ant
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
Techtool is commercial software:

<http://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro>

I am not sure why JR said " ... supplied with your computer." None of
my Macs came with Techtool.
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Jolly Roger
2013-07-27 16:52:56 UTC
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Post by Ant
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
<http://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro>
I am not sure why JR said " ... supplied with your computer." None of
my Macs came with Techtool.
Again, it comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase AppleCare for
your computer.
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Michael Vilain
2013-07-27 22:21:30 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Jim Gibson
Post by Ant
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
<http://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro>
I am not sure why JR said " ... supplied with your computer." None of
my Macs came with Techtool.
Again, it comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase AppleCare for
your computer.
Don't know when you last purchase AppleCare, but they stopped providing
CD/DVD quite some time ago. I suspect it was with the advent of the
MacBook Air which has no optical drive. Last year, I bought AppleCare
for my MacBook Pro (which DOES have a DVD drive). There was a card in
the box with a code that I type into a web-site to validate my AppleCare
coverage. That's it.

I had to buy TechTool Pro.
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Jolly Roger
2013-07-28 00:03:56 UTC
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Post by Michael Vilain
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Jim Gibson
Post by Ant
Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with
Mac
OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has
anyone
run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
<http://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro>
I am not sure why JR said " ... supplied with your computer." None of
my Macs came with Techtool.
Again, it comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase AppleCare for
your computer.
Don't know when you last purchase AppleCare, but they stopped providing
CD/DVD quite some time ago. I suspect it was with the advent of the
MacBook Air which has no optical drive. Last year, I bought AppleCare
for my MacBook Pro (which DOES have a DVD drive). There was a card in
the box with a code that I type into a web-site to validate my AppleCare
coverage. That's it.
I had to buy TechTool Pro.
I admittedly haven't purchased AppleCare in quite some time, as it tends
to be a waste for me.
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Neill Massello
2013-07-28 01:34:50 UTC
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Post by Michael Vilain
There was a card in
the box with a code that I type into a web-site to validate my AppleCare
coverage. That's it.
No link to download TechTool Deluxe? That's the way they were doing it
the last time I got AppleCare in 2009.
Michael Vilain
2013-07-29 08:21:06 UTC
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Post by Neill Massello
Post by Michael Vilain
There was a card in
the box with a code that I type into a web-site to validate my AppleCare
coverage. That's it.
No link to download TechTool Deluxe? That's the way they were doing it
the last time I got AppleCare in 2009.
Since 10.7 is delivered with a recovery partition which as diagnostics,
I suspect they stopped using non-Apple software for their support.

So to answer your question, no there was only a link to the AppleCare
site on apple.com. No download. And no installed DVD, even though this
model will run 10.6.
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Ant
2013-07-28 16:39:56 UTC
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Post by Michael Vilain
Don't know when you last purchase AppleCare, but they stopped providing
CD/DVD quite some time ago. I suspect it was with the advent of the
MacBook Air which has no optical drive. Last year, I bought AppleCare
for my MacBook Pro (which DOES have a DVD drive). There was a card in
the box with a code that I type into a web-site to validate my AppleCare
coverage. That's it.
Ditto on a MacBook Pro, with its optical drive and AppleCare, in summer
of 2012.
Post by Michael Vilain
I had to buy TechTool Pro.
:(
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Jolly Roger
2013-07-27 00:31:34 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Post by Ant
Weird. My client's old 15" MacBook Pro, from summer 2008 and with Mac OS
X 10.5.8, had its wireless network disabled. Airport said it was
disabled. Turning it on didn't do anything. Rebooting did not fix it,
but a shut down and power on did. What the heck happened? Has anyone run
into this problem before? It was a first for us. I wonder if the old
hardware is failing or something.
That would be my first suspicion as well - hardware failure. Have you
had a look in Apple menu > About This Mac > More Info > System Report to
see if the hardware shows up correctly there? I believe there is a test
for that in the copy of TechTool supplied with your computer. Have you
run TechTool on the system to check the wireless hardware specifically?
No, I did not check there since I was in a hurry. I did the
common/basic stuff like rebooting, checking settings, etc. Shut down and
power back on fixed it. I did not know about TechTool. Where is it? I
cannot seem to find it with its Finder.
Now I remember. It comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase
AppleCare for your computer. It can be handy in detecting and diagnosing
some hardware issues. Of course, Apple's support people usually have
much better software for detecting such things.
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Ant
2013-07-27 17:54:45 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Now I remember. It comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase
AppleCare for your computer. It can be handy in detecting and diagnosing
some hardware issues. Of course, Apple's support people usually have
much better software for detecting such things.
OK, we found that old AppleCare's box with its disc. I did not try it
since the problem hasn't returned yet (hopefully, never). I assume it is
not downloadable either for those with AppleCare (well, he used to have
it until its time ran out -- never had to use it -- things started to
break down after it ended -- LOL!). Why did Apple stop providing this
disc since his newer 13.3" MacBook Pro (2012) did not have it in its
AppleCare box?

In my original post, I forgot to mention that the uptime and mostly
idled at the login screen for only a few minutes too when that incident
happened. Hopefully, it was one of those very rare hiccups!
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Michael Vilain
2013-07-27 22:23:23 UTC
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Post by Jolly Roger
Now I remember. It comes on a separate CD/DVD when you purchase
AppleCare for your computer. It can be handy in detecting and diagnosing
some hardware issues. Of course, Apple's support people usually have
much better software for detecting such things.
OK, we found that old AppleCare's box with its disc. I did not try it
since the problem hasn't returned yet (hopefully, never). I assume it is
not downloadable either for those with AppleCare (well, he used to have
it until its time ran out -- never had to use it -- things started to
break down after it ended -- LOL!). Why did Apple stop providing this
disc since his newer 13.3" MacBook Pro (2012) did not have it in its
AppleCare box?
In my original post, I forgot to mention that the uptime and mostly
idled at the login screen for only a few minutes too when that incident
happened. Hopefully, it was one of those very rare hiccups!
All the new laptops don't come with an optical disk. So why provide a
disk recovery tool on a CD? Use the Recovery Partition that's already
installed on the disk.

Not running 10.7 or later, sucks to be you.
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